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i’m ambivalent about taekook because what you say is true but they have also had moments that show they do care about each other and like each other at least vs taegi. taekook i can see as casual not super close but still friends but taegi are straight up coworkers who have learned to be appreciative of each other. i think jungkook in general is just a more playful person now. that’s why he’s also super close to jin now. just with jimin there doesn’t seem to be much of an age barrier as jin obviously who’s 5 years older than him. taehyung is much more calm and chill which is why i think he and namjoon have gotten closer though i argue they were always close. i can see taehyung viewing jungkook as immature from a friendship pov just compared to the people he chooses to hang out with.
but now i wonder do you think vmin friendship is kinda fake? they’ve been showcasing their friendship like jikook but in a straight up friends only way with the song literally friends, talking about how they are soulmates all the time, highlighting their friendship constantly. but this adds to a feeling i’ve been having lately like it’s kind of bullshit or at least exaggerated and fanservice because they know the vmin friendship sells and is the main pure friendship bts ship. i find them really corny. there’s no need to force them to act like besties if they aren’t close anymore. sometimes i think taehyung is as distant to jimin as he is to jungkook, from around 2016. he seems really close to his non bts friends than either of them and i wish they didn’t sell this facade. there are other closer friendships in the group. like how sope obviously aren’t as close anymore, yoongi is closest to jin by miles, so sope is not as highlighted at all anymore and that seems more authentic.
that’s what i really like about dream. their fanservice is really obvious that it’s fanservice and a joke. they’re very open and natural with who are closest but overall have a strong group dynamic. they all have their favorite or closest members but as a core of 7 they all seem to genuinely care and like each other. even the ones who are more distant, when it’s them one on one they have great chemistry and don’t feel awkward at all.
i do think they’ve all grown to appreciate and even love each other and work amazingly as a team but bts comes off a bit fake in comparison but dream have also known each other since they were 12 and 14 and have been together through their entire adolescence which is when you just form really intense attachments to people. even if they’re not your bestie, the bonds you make at that age can be super intense
i can't say i know taegi super well at all, but as far as what you're saying this all sounds true!! i think a lot of idol groups have that situation, where there are some really good relationships and then there are some where it's like, if we weren't in a group together we would never interact (for example nahyuck ajsdlkfjsd)
i think taekook vs taegi is sort of where the age hierarchy dynamics come in, but also that taekook's personalities were more compatible in the past than taegi's ever was....but in the present where taekook's personalities are /drastically/ different to about the same level of taegi's, them seeming closer than taegi seems to be partially that shared past compatibility combined with age hierarchy automatically placing them closer to each other. i think that jungkook and jin aren't actually THAT close, like they are playful but i don't get the impression that they talk seriously about things, if that makes sense. whereas i think jin helped jimin a lot in the past and was a source of comfort for him, and though they may not be like that now they still have that past of relying on each other. i haven't seen much of taejoon lately so i can't say i know what trajectory they're taking right now....and yeah i think taehyung's new outlook on life is very aligned or compatible with personalities that....are not present in bangtan sdkjfsdsld except for maybe jimin. scream u saying tae thinks jk is immature....i mean maybe!! i recall that time jk was very rude to him in that one vlive....that was very uh. immature of jk imo. and im sure the rest of bangtan thought so too bc like....the mood got real awkward after....so i can see that!!
uh, i don't think vmin is fake!! but in a sense that a) yes i do think they've gotten distant, but b) i do not think they like each other less, just that circumstances (namely jk coming between them) have distanced them in this way. i think tae rly means what he says. i don't think he'd work on entire songs about jimin if he didn't actually care about him that way. he even wanted to sing that christmas song with jimin and was stopped by bighit....(and FUCK bighit) sigh. anyway. so i don't think it's a facade but they also are probably reluctant to reveal that they aren't as close as they used to be -- but i think they still love each other very much. bts is very free in this respect, that they don't really have to push fanservice anymore!! they're rich as shit now, they don't gotta do that, whatever they do will sell. the only time i've seen them do fanservice in recent years is taekook for their japanese fanbase (or so it was speculated by km oomfs so take that with a grain of salt i guess). so i don't think there is any real need for vmin to be pushed -- the bangtan-are-besties agenda works well enough and survives in the eyes of the fandom even when bangtan themselves are distancing, so really hybe/bangtan don't have to do anything at all....the fandom will do it for them.
SCREAM are you armyzen too....what a surprise reading ur dreamies paragraphs. this is true!! they're very transparent, very professional, and fairly comfortable excepting a couple dynamics. i want to note that they're still young, though! if u look at bangtan at that age, they were also all fairly close to each other. we really don't know what's going to happen with dreamies as they age, especially bc we can see their dynamics actively shifting ALREADY right now. certain dynamics are already getting distant and strained. it is true that they are gen z and bangtan are millenials, and i think that's where dreamies take enjoyment out of engaging in fanservice and making it a joke amongst themselves (i'm aware that sm also trains them to not show if they hate it, but we've seen them engage in it when they don't even need to so they really seem to have owned it and made it their own), whereas bangtan clearly hated doing fanservice and didn't hide that. i've kinda noticed that with 4th gen? they embrace fanservice/skinship/being close much more, and it might just be their natural inclination or that they're not as bothered by it, or that mindsets have changed over time, i dunno, lots of factors that i haven't fully rotated in my head....
you're right that they met at a younger age than bangtan did, i really agree with that!! if u grow up with each other at that age, you kinda get through ur worst eras together, and coming out of that u have this bond that is difficult to shake. i think bangtan were brought together by other reasons (small company, broke, already aware they were in the lineup, living together predebut), but what you're saying about that adolescent/middle school age being intensely formative is extremelyyyy true i think u made a fantastic point there. all in all though. i do think there are still some distinctions in age/gen that should be made between dreamies and bangtan before any comparisons are made. i kinda want to explore this further now!! hahahaha....thank u for these really good thoughts nonnie <3
